I personally think thhere is no specific SQ definition.the best is test listen & ask yourself of sq preference.individual have different expectation. I had audit a setup with full scanspeak set with tru billet with macintosh HU.somehow i just get down from the car & said not my type.then i went to audit a seas lotus with brax ge & alpine 7990.i just stay in the car for almost 1 hours enjoying.thats my preference.so it conclude SQ dun have specific definition.go for your own sq preference.cheerss.Just my opinion. This post has been edited by DerekKuah: Sep 10 2007, 11:17 AM. Just to share out my experience i have gone through when i plan to purchase a FOCAL component speake So I went to scout for this speaker at all the ICE shop who is selling this brand. Eventually I managed to find a shop (xxx) who selling this model and test the sound quality 2 compared others such as Morel, JL Audio, Dimension, DSL, PHD and Eton.

After comparing, FOCAL 165KP n 165K2P are still the best to my hearing. The thing is, the seller is promoting this model and asking me to install fast as he may no have stock. But I hold back my urged and went to the FOCAL authorized dealer to check it out.

Guess what, the authorized dealer shows me 2 sets of FOCAL 165KP model component speaker and ask me to differentiate it. But I could not differentiate it as both are 99% the same. The dealer told me, one of the speaker I'm holding is a FAKE set or Imitated set from CHINA!.

I was totally surprise with what the dealer show to me and explained to me. The differences are, CHINA FOCAL do not have identity card, no warranty, epoxy glue can be detected below the cone edge, the KELVAR material is more rough compared the ORI FOCAL.

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The most important thing that we may detect is the serial number at the magnet area. ALL CHINA FOCAL serial number will end with xxxx2196 and the engraving is poor compare the ORI FOCAL.

Where the ORI FOCAL will have the serial number engrave nicely and the serial number is match to the identity card given. So, be careful when purchasing this high end speaker. Check the ICE shop whether is the authorized dealer for the high end product. Source: Added on December 16, 2007, 11:58 pm Fake Focal speakers on eBay now. They look like the real thing, the packaging is just like a genuine Focal box, they even have a Focal warranty card that looks and feels genuine. Small clue: the tweeter spanner in the fake sets is aluminium, the tweeter spanner in a genuine Focal speaker kit is plastic.

The woofer cone material on the fake 165V1 we bought recently is a spray-on finish, the genuine product has microscopic fibreglass beads coating the cone. Unless you have a genuine set to compare with, you probably won't tell.

The tweeter cones are obviously poorly made. The wiring terminates in a different way on the back of the tweeters, if you need any further indication of fake or genuine. The fake speakers sounded 'okay', they are probably a match for a lot of other Asian-made speakers, but they lacked bass extension and the tweeters were shrill. We have also seen fake Pioneer DVD players. They look great on the outside, but the display is pixellated and the colours are washed out. This just reinforces the old saying that you get what you pay for.

If you want to get genuine Focal speakers, buy from an authorised Focal dealer here in Australia. The warranty is not valid if you have imported Focal speakers or amplifiers. You will find that our retail pricing of Focal products is very reasonable in Australia, compared to many overseas countries. We run a lean and efficient wholesale operation and our dealers make a minimal margin. When you buy from an Australian dealer, you will get support, advice and an Australia-wide network of assistance in the rare event of a warranty problem. You'll also be guaranteed genuine Focal products. Get what you pay for.

Source: This post has been edited by ikan_semilang: Dec 16 2007, 11:58 PM.

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